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good..i agree 100%..glad

Simone Mathew — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:56:12 -0500

good..i agree 100%..glad that smoking has been banned..because The youth of today are becoming more prone to smoking and drugs and there is a sharp increase in the number of drug addicts. It is indeed very important to make them aware of its consequences. The best way to get clean and sober is to engage in rehab centers and find a recovery support system that works for you.

I also agree that this

johannabartley — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:53:40 -0500

I also agree that this smoking ban was needed, still, it does more harm than good. I never smoked at home, I don't like the smell the cigarettes leave in the walls and furniture. Now that I can't smoke when in a bar or restaurant, I smoke home and I smoke cigars as they have a pleasant smell. Well, not pleasant but better than cigarettes.

Not much nicotine in the filters?????

michellerb — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:24:00 -0400

How can you say that? What is the purpose of a filter on the end of a cigarette? Isn't it designed and placed on the end near a smoker's mouth to filter the chemicals and the toxins so it will be healthier for the smoker?

Wouldn't it make sense that the filter is loaded with chemicals and toxins?

Birds do eat filters thinking it is food.

nope

Ctranbarger — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:53:20 -0400

didnt know that, but thats weird since there cant be much nicotine in the filters and the eggs are self contained incubation units, i wouldnt think that they absorbed stuff through the shell... but then, i dont know much about birds except that some are pretty, and some arent

Fact

edgars — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:21:53 -0400

You say "Birds do not eat the filters, but they do use them in their nests"... Did you know that when birds use filters to build their nest, the eggs do not hatch?? The Nicotine in the filter kills the eggs.

you say "birds do not eat

Betty — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:37:45 -0400

you say "birds do not eat them but do use them in their nest" Good fact to mention... Did you know that when birds use these filters in their nest, the eggs do not hatch??? The Nicotine from the filters kills the eggs.

indeed

Ctranbarger — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:10:06 -0400

there are probably still butt around from then, but thats assuming that they take the full 25 to decompose. The reason I say it will work itself out is because if the decline of smokers continues, there will be less butts littered so the number will slowly decrease. Birds do not eat the filters, but they do use them in their nests. In the end its simply about being responsible about smoking, yeah, you shouldnt smoke around kids, you shouldnt litter (anything)... these are all things that most people know, but either dont do or dont care about. But the littering thing is all the more reason to keep smokers inside. The reason? next time you see an ashtray outside, look around in the area. For some reason, even with an ashtray present, smokers will still flick the butt to the ground. Inside a restaurant though, very very few people just throw their cigarettes on the floor (sorry, had to put in an extra point for my side :) )

True,

michellerb — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:25:30 -0400

But if it is a true fact, we still have butts decomposing in landfills from back in 1982. Each day more butts are being piled on top of the other butts so it is a continual cycle and I don't believe it will work itself out in its own time. That's like saying global warming will work itself out over time. How can it if there isn't a proactive stance to counter it?

What proactive stance can be used with cigarette butts? Can they be recycled in some manner? When someone tosses one out their car window, which I saw happen twice last night in a five mile stretch of Capital Blvd., do birds eat those filters?

I don't think so. Just like anything else in life, if someone is going to do something it should be done in a responsible manner. Example....don't go to a playground and smoke around children, don't toss cigarette butts out the window, don't drink and drive, don't flippantly toss around the word butt as I have done in this post.

Michelle

Let the market decide, not the government to ban...

treet007 — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:22:56 -0400

Hi there. I see Jimmy Broadway is made famous on Friday, July 20th N&O quote on page 3N. I disagree with Mr., Broadway because of the following reasons:

1. Let the market decide. If you do not like the business servicing smokers, go elsewhere. If there are enough people doing this, the business will lose revenue and they will either change their ways or close down.

2. Government has other more critical issues to deal with. Social services, Homeland Security, health care for NC citizens, law enforcement, roads, utilities, and the Middle East war need NC state government attention. A smoking ban does not.

3. Smoking is not illegal for adults.

4. Businesses should establish a much better air handling system with proper separation for smokers and non-smokers. They should support all patrons equally.

I also do not agree that "individual business seem to take a 'don't care' attitude" as stated by Mr. Broadway. Some may, but this type of generalization is not correct.

--GIF (a non-smoker)

heh

Ctranbarger — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:32:41 -0400

sorry if I seem like I'm being a smart-alec, but the time of decomposition isnt increased by the number of items. 4.5 trillion butts would still take 2-25 years to decompose. now, each year the numbers would grow until 25 years had been reached, because even if each butt took the full 25 years to decompose, there could only ever be 25 years of build up, and the numbers would more or less hit a plateau. Now, granted, thats still alot of butts, but we are already at that plateua range, and the number of smokers is in america is slowly declining every year. So, like most thing, it will work itself out in it's own time.

The dreaded cigarette butt.

michellerb — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:30:01 -0400

Just one more thing to say about smoking in general and how it affects us all and I'm not talking about the second hand smoke debate!

Did you know that cigarette filters are made of a plastic cellulose material and can take anywhere from 2 to 25 years to decompose? Consider that time frame while you read these little facts:

There are over 176,000,000 pounds of discarded cigarette butts in the United States each year.

Over 4.5 trillion cigarettes are littered worldwide each year. They are the most littered item in the world (http://www.cigarettelitter.org).

How long would 4.5 trillion cigarette butts take to decompose?

Michelle

going back to my original comment

Ctranbarger — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:43:21 -0400

all I'm saying is that I feel that it should be the business owners decision. Like I said, I hate going into non-smoking restaurants, but I respect the fact that the owner made that decision. I just don't think that there should be a law against it. Heck, some restaurant are no smoking until a certain time (like 10pm or so, and then they allow smoking) even that is fine.

In response to your post, you are forgetting that most restaurants' smoking section is much smaller than the non, sometimes only comprised of the bar area or a small section of floor space. What is 15 minutes? If you don't want to wait, go to another restaurant. Do you think that the 6 extra tables that the smoking section provides would shorten your wait? They probably won't, as most people just leave when they see a wait, so there could have been 30 more tables (gross exaggeration, i know, but you get the point) that already took up those few tables before you got there.

You also failed to mention bars/clubs, but I assume that since no children are present, you would be ok with it.

In closing, if it bothers you, talk to the business owners (if it's a chain, like the aforementioned applebees, good luck getting through to corporate, but a GM might be able to make those decisions). I'm sure if enough of you band together, a business will listen. There is no need for a law, because businesses are a personal investment someone makes, so they should have the right to make that decision.

So close.........

michellerb — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:34:14 -0400

Concert venues......have at it unless of course this is a Hillary Duff concert or a leg of the American Idol tour where CHILDREN will be present.

Tobacco stores......have at it as I won't be there, nor will my children.

Casinos.......Children can't be there, so again, have at it.

Restaurants......pretend you now hear a loud buzzer sound signaling you are wrong. I hate going into Applebe's and they say, smoking or non smoking.

I say non smoking. Okay, that will be a fifteen minute wait. Smoking section has tables open, but we have to wait.

Michelle

Let the Market Decide

thumtax — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:43:36 -0400

Yes, I smoke, and I try to be as courteous as such a potentially offensive habit allows. I certainly don't smoke in non-smokers' homes or cars, and I generally don't mind stepping outside of restaurants and other such crowded, enclosed spaces. Heck, I even make it a practice to stay downwind of collegues when I smoke outside.

But I still think it ought to be a business owner's choice. If a business owner is losing revenue due to non-smokers staying away, he or she will ban smoking. Otherwise, it seems clear that the non-smokers are not so offended as to take their business elsewhere. For example, one poster complained about smokers lighting up in the wide open environment of a bowling alley. If it bothers you so badly, don't go there. What's that? You can't get enough non-smokers to join in your bowling boycott? That simply means you're in the minority of your non-smoking majority.

Regarding ventilation, I don't believe there is a system out there that would prevent the person next to me from possibly inhaling secondhand smoke. Yes, smoke rises - eventually. As an experienced smoker, I can attest to the fact that when I exhale through my nose the smoke always goes down before it goes up. When I exhale from my mouth, the smoke is far more likely to go down or horizontally before rising. I even have an extra advantage. I am usually the tallest person in the group, so when standing with others I make the effort to look skyward and exhale forcefully in that direction. However, this courtesy is most likely negated by the fact that, between puffs, I forget to hold my cigarette over my head.

"sigh" also...

carbonlib — Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:59:44 -0400

apparently YOU don't get it.......it should be AGAINST THE LAW for you to make anyone, ANYONE in the general public share in your drug habit......no matter how nice you appear to be in offering some sort of expensive-for-business solution...

just take your nasty-smelling habit outside....

Smoking Ban

iengrave — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:03:29 -0400

The Government has to step in where individual business seem to take a "Don't Care" attitude. Of course smoking should be banned in all public places. Smokers are a minority, unlike in the 60's when it was a popular habit. It is socially now unacceptable to smoke. One such public place is Bowling Lanes. The owners just don't get it! There are far fewer smokers than non-smokers, yet the owners will not stop the smoking for fear they will lose a few dollars. If the non-smokers would ban together and just not show up until smoking is prohibited, then let the owners see how much money they would lose.

The Government has to step in where individual business seem to take a "Don't Care" attitude. Of course smoking should be banned in all…
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