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 <title>Deportation</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I am sick and tired of all the illegal invaders crying and moaning that they are being targeted and subject to deportation.  If they came here the proper way, that would not be aproblem.  The only ones that will be deported are the ones breaking the laws of The USA!  No one has made them criminals but themselves or their parents; put the blame where it belongs.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think one more step should be initiated; locate the persons/companies that employ them and fine the employers, maybe $10,000.00 per illegal in their employ.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:14:08 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>Illegal Immigration</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with most of what the writer said.  After being a lifelong Democrat I recently changed my party affiliation to Independent, primarily because the Democratic Party is even weaker than the Republican Party on illegal immigration, and making English our official language.  I also agree that the now Democratic-controlled Congress has done nothing on these issues since taking over.  However, one of the architects of last year&#039;s odious Senate immigration bill was John McCain (Republican), joined by Senator Kennedy (Democrat), and Senator Martinez (Republican).  One of the biggest advocates of open borders is President Bush and during the first six years of an administration controlled by the Republican Party nothing was done to stop illegal immigration or to make English our official language. Also, that infamous Executive Order (13166), signed by President Clinton just before leaving office, is still in force because President Bush refuses to rescind it, supposedly out of fear of losing the Latino vote.  This law is costing the country billions each year by forcing persons, or organizations, who receive Federal funds to provide interpretive and translative services to non-English-speaking persons working for them, upon demand, in any language. Such outrageous and irresponsible political moves, taken without first consulting the American people, have so thoroughly disgusted voters that many are leaving both parties.  Many of our legislators are no longer representing the voters who put them in office.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:53:12 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Fred Hawkins</dc:creator>
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 <title>Immigration Reform</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Federal law requires immigrants seeking jobs in this country to provide proof that they are here legally.  Those here illegally are allowed to receive emergency benefits only while in the U. S.  Why, then, all the fuss about the rights of illegal immigrants, fanned continuously by politicians, corporations, immigration lawyers, and others, seeking cheap votes, cheap labor and special favors by racist, ethnic organizations, like La Raza. The cost of illegal immigration and over-the-top legal immigration in our country is enormous.  One cannot depend upon our president, or Congress, to do a detailed and objective impact study, showing the true cost of illegal immigration.  How can they when they often call for voice votes on immigration issues to conceal their actions from constituents, or write a bill behind closed doors then attempt to rush it through the Senate for a quick vote (as senators did last year) or attach a controversial amendment dealing with immigration to a must-pass bill (like appropriations), hoping to quickly pass it before voters know what&#039;s happening. These deceptive tactics, and sometimes outright lying to voters, has become our government&#039;s way of dealing with illegal immigration for sometime.  The will of the people has been replaced by the will of powerful and influential persons and organizations who have deep pockets.  Under these circumstances how can we, the people who put our politicians in office, finally convince them to enforce immigration laws they enacted. We, the voters, have the power to bring this about, with the support of true immigration reformers in Congress (the 110 member Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus), and the support of immigration reform organizations such as NumbersUSA (www.NumbersUSA.com), Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) (www.fairus.org/site/PageServer), and Americans for Immigration Control (AMC), (www.immigrationcontrol.com).  NumbersUSA gives a detailed account of each congressman&#039;s voting record on immigration.  Sadly, our own congressman, David Price, is given an &quot;F&quot;.  Mr. Price insists upon passing a bill weak on enforcement that gives amnesty to the millions already in this country, illegally.  Such an action would be a total disaster since ICE is fraught with corrupt practices and, by their own admission, lack the ability to process paperwork for legal immigrants.  How can they possibly process another 12 to 20 million?  In the ensuing chaos millions more would be encouraged to enter the country illegally. Voters in Utah recently showed their muscle by deposing Chris Cannon who, in the past, boasted about being the president&#039;s primary congressional advocate for amnesty. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Open borders advocates often refer to true immigration reformers as bigots, racists, and xenophobes, and are careful to blur any distinction between legal and illegal.  This absurdity appears to be the only line of defense still open to them.  This country has the most liberal LEGAL immigration policy in the world. If anyone is allowed to enter the U. S. at will, we cease to be a country.          &lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:03:21 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Fred Hawkins</dc:creator>
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 <title>Attrition through Enforcement</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Deny illegal aliens and their children citizenship, employment, education, healthcare, social services and welfare and they will deport themselves back to their home countries.  Problem solved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately the democratically controlled Congress won&#039;t let that happen, which is why their approval rating is 18% while the President&#039;s is 35%.  When you&#039;re half as popular as President Bush you are clearly doing something wrong.  Why can&#039;t they get it thtough their thick heads. The American people don&#039;t like what you&#039;re doing and we&#039;re going to speak loud and clear in the voting booth. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:30:10 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>Illegal is Illegal</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Representative Price says that ICE should focus on criminal aliens.  If people do not come here legally, then they are here illegally.  People who commit acts that are illegal are criminals.  Stay with me now Representative Price, I know I&#039;m stretching the limits of your congnitive capacities.  Illegal aliens are criminals.  All illegal aliens are criminals. I know Rep. Price would love to see them all stay here until he eventually gets a grand amnesty bill passed.  Guess what Rep. Price AMNESTY WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. Driving without a license is illegal, being here illegally is illegal. All of them are deportable offenses and rightfully so. Representative Price is undermining the security of our nation.  We in the 4th Congressional district need to elect someone who will represent our will in Washington.  The fact that Rep. Price is the head of the Homeland Security spending panel is both laughable and terrifying. Please let us all work together to ensure that this is Rep. Price&#039;s last term in office.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:24:38 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>illegals</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;first of all i am a 57 yr old .i was born and raised in the greAT state of nc.i do not want to live in mexico.if i did i would relocate there.we have all these so called politicians ,supposedly college educated,i mean i thought they were smarter than i,but obviously i was wrong.i am only a high school grad,but even i can tell you illegal is wrong,its against the law.what is it that these so called smart intelligent politicians and lawyers do not understand about legal and illegal.i think maybe we need to elect people that understand the laws of this state and this country.david price..please read very slowly so you understand.we elected you and we will unelect you.i bet if they were taking lawyers and politicians jobs for less money than we are entitled to .i bet you they would be singing a very different story for sure.this is only a tip of what these illegals are doing to our great state.i know this to be true because you see i work with 35 of these illegals.and they are illegal,they get pay in cash, they have no nc drivers license,they all drive personal vehicles and co. vehicles.so give me a break...this is only a tip of the iceberg.i hear these illegals brag and boast of how nieve and ignorant we gringos are.we want our life back..that is all.i could go on and on...but what the hell is the use....homesick in wendell.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:48:13 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>joseph sanders</dc:creator>
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 <title>Undocumented Workers</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. Deuteronomy 10:19&lt;br /&gt;
No one wants America to turn into a police state with road blocks, splitting up families. That’s not to mention it would cost billions and billions of dollars and detract law enforcement from their normal duties to protect the public. Does anyone really think that a President of the United States or Congress is going to order the round up of 12 million people?&lt;br /&gt;
The more realistic approach is immigration reform that includes tightened security at our borders, catching and deporting criminals and stepping up enforcement against employers using undocumented workers. That reform must include a better way for employers to legally hire temporary workers to fill unwanted jobs and pay more taxes. We also need a required path to citizenship for those already here who can pass a background check, learn English and pay taxes over a number of years.&lt;br /&gt;
Once they are here, undocumented workers have no path to legalizing themselves. This is a problem we must solve. These people are in our communities and for most of them, they are likely to stay here. We need a required path for citizenship that includes passing a background check, learning English and paying taxes over a number of years. Those steps should be part of a realistic immigration reform that tightens security at our borders, catches and deports criminals and steps up enforcement against employers hiring undocumented workers. At the same time we need to create a better way for employers to bring in legally documented workers to fill unwanted jobs and pay taxes. There is a 10-year backlog of green cards in Mexico. These are not bad people breaking good laws they are people who want to provide for their families who are caught by a dysfunctional immigration system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor… Zech. 7:10 &lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:55:57 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>Your tipline for illegal immigrants! Pariah employers!</title>
 <link>http://share.triangle.com/node/16573#comment-126705</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt; Ice has a ICE Tipline: 1-866-DHS-2ICE for intelligence to locate illegal aliens, or predatory businesses that employ them. The power to help America has been returned to the general public? If we can only pass the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) that Democrats are trying to keep away from the public eye. Its funding will build a massive force of interior ICE agents, including  20.000 border patrol  enforcement to root out the culprits and the E-verify data base that is 90.5 percent effective.NUMBERSUSA  for details.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:26:52 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Brit</dc:creator>
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 <title>Illegal Immigrants and the law</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&#039;m missing something but if you are in this country illegally, doesn&#039;t that mean you&#039;ve broken the law(s) of this country? If so, doesn&#039;t breaking the law(s) make you a criminal? And following that line of thought, if ICE raids a workplace and finds those that are here illegally, is not ICE then focusing their efforts on criminals?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just because you do not agree with the immigration laws of this country does not make them invalid. They are still the laws by which we expect people to abide and if you do not abide, then you are a criminal, hence you will be arrested.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, what am I missing? ICE seems to be doing what they are expected to do - arrest criminals.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:07:07 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>Focus On Criminals?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Aren&#039;t &quot;illegal&quot; immigrants by definition criminals?  Are they not breaking existing U.S. law?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This liberal obsession with re-writing and spinning the meaning of anything for political gain must stop. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Find them all, send them home and make them apply legally, secure the borders and let&#039;s make sure that all Americans respect this country, understand our heritage and speak our language.&lt;br /&gt;
That&#039;s not too much to ask for living in the geratest country on earth...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:43:16 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>&quot;ILLEGAL&quot; aliens</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;When someone breaks into your home, we do our best to deport the criminal out of our home.  When an illegal enters to OUR country contrary to our laws, they are automatically criminal.  Mexico will put you into their jails immediately when found. I think our politicians are in the hip pocket of big business wanting cheap labor, or guaranteed democrat voters. A country that fails to defend it&#039;s borders fails to be a country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:27:07 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>Deportation of Illegal Aliens</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;What most do not understand is that if the laws were enforced against those that hire Illegal&#039;s, they would self deport. If there are no jobs for them here they will leave. Our immigration system is not broken. We have all the laws we need on the books now, that have been in place since 1986, all we need is those with backbone enough to enforce them. Start voting out the politicians that pander to these people and elect those that will finally place the American Citizens interests in the forefront. That is the only way that this will ever stop! No Amnesty, no path to citizenship! Go home now and come back legally!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:08:53 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>LadyM</dc:creator>
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 <title>i think they should be</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;i think they should be deported due to we can drive without license they should not be allowed to drive without license.its just not fair of how they get away with so much.now the ones that kill someone with a motor vehicle should stay in the states in jail for the rest of their lives because they will come back from mexico as someone else.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:39:16 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>happy girl</dc:creator>
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 <title>I would rather pay higher</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I would rather pay higher prices for food than pay high taxes to educate kids of illegals, pay for their food stamps, rent and health and dental care.  ICE should bring buses to the Mexican consulate and ship them back. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:09:31 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>koolady</dc:creator>
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 <title>I agree I reloacted from</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I agree I reloacted from Florida. It&#039;s really bad there but OMG I thought I was getting away when I came to NC. They out number us here 4 to 1 and they breed babies like ( I won&#039;t say that).... but yeah it&#039;s an issue....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:28:30 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>Join the discussion on deportation</title>
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&lt;p&gt;What do you think of local jailers being able to start deportation proceedings against illegal immigrants arrested for crimes ranging from traffic violations to serious offenses?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now another side of how the increase in immigration enforcement is playing out — the Mexican consulate in Raleigh has been inundated with requests for passports and birth certificates. The Raleigh location (which serves an estimated 600,000 Mexicans in the Carolinas) has doubled the amount of passports over the past year and tripled the amount of birth certificates issued to children of Mexican parents born in the U.S. The reason: fear of deportation and the slowing economy means more people are thinking of going back. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;!-- EndContext --&gt;
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What do you think of local jailers being able to start deportation proceedings against illegal immigrants arrested for crimes ranging from traffic violations to serious&amp;hellip;&lt;!-- EndContext --&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://share.triangle.com/node/16573&quot;&gt;read more&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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 <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:37:37 -0400</pubDate>
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