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Coach K/Roy

Visitor — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:35:11 -0500

To whom is it obvious, other than to you, Charles, that these tensions between the coaches arose in Winston-Salem over eight years ago? Whom do you think even remembers that "fateful nite," other than detail-obsessed fans who live on the message boards? Does Coach K not have a great marketing program for DOOK, through the various commercials he does on television and the constant butt-kissing of "DOOKIE V," when he announces the games? Doesn't such marketing often lead to success? You're giving your interpretation of what Roy is saying in his comments. Aren't you putting words in his mouth and who are you to do so? Coach K doesn't like to address injuries, just as he doesn't like to address the media. Get back on your message boards and quit assuming people are as concerned with these issues as you are!

Obviously?

Visitor — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:24:24 -0500

To whom is it obvious, other than to you, that these tensions between the coaches arose in Winston-Salem over eight years ago? Whom do you think even remembers that "fateful nite," other than detail-obsessed fans who live on the message boards? Does Coach K not have a great marketing program for DOOK, through the various commercials he does on television and the constant butt-kissing of "DOOKIE V," when he announces the games? Doesn't such marketing often lead to success? You're giving your interpretation of what Roy is saying in his comments. Aren't you putting words in his mouth and who are you to do so? Coach K doesn't like to address injuries, just as he doesn't like to address the media. Get back on your message boards and quit assuming people are as concerned with these issues as you are!

i am a carolina fan and i

glenn — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:16:13 -0500

i am a carolina fan and i think roy over-reacted. K was just saying how it is: duke doesn´t reveal injury reports and other schools do. the media and all these crazy fans are even more disappointing than roy´s mistake.

The quote is still accurate.

Michael — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:44:51 -0500

The quote is still accurate. The parenthetical insert shows that either the writer or the editor altered the quote to clean it up -- which is allowed as long as the meaning isn't changed, according to The Associated Press Guide to Newswriting.
Newspapers do it all the time to quotes they think might be offensive. Most of us probably don't have a problem with the word "damn" versus "darn," but there probably are people who do.
If The N&O didn't use the parentheses, then that may be questionable. But, the way they did it here works fine here.
Really, though, the issue is how coach Williams and coach K work with the media. Williams is open with the media; K is less so.
Understandably, since his hiatus in '94-95, K has decided to spend more time doing things he enjoys and less time doing things he does not, which includes talking to the media.
That's fine. But when Carolina lost to Duke and had a couple tight wins, it was easy to pinpoint the main reason: injuries. And because Carolina makes their players' injuries more available to the media, they get more attention.
But as Duke was cruising along, injuries were less noteworthy and not made available, so there wasn't any reason to talk about them.
From K's perspective, it's easy to see that a lot has been made about UNC's injuries, while Duke surely has plenty similar injuries of its own. But until it lost, K had no reason to talk about them.
From Williams' perspective, his team's injuries have been news. And suddenly, there comes K's mention of "other teams."
In my mind, K's comment probably did have at least a little to do with UNC, probably a lot to do with other teams, too.
But from the sound of the audio, I didn't think either coach is going to lose much sleep over it. It's almost March, and both teams are fighting for the ACC and have national championship aspirations. I'm sure they're both wound a little tighter than they usually are.

Coach your own team......

Visitor — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:32:37 -0500

Calling Pete Gaudet.

ROY VS K

Visitor — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:05:37 -0500

I AGREE WITH THE SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN COMMENT. ROY HAS THE MOST PASSION I'VE EVER SEEN IN A COLLEGE BASKETBALL COACH AND HE LOVED HIS MAMA TOO. HE LEARNED FROM THE BEST IN COACH SMITH. COACH K LOOKS LIKE THE CHEETOS MOUSE WHEN HE WHINES TO THE REFS AND THE FLAGRANT FOUL AGAINST HANSBROUGH HE HARDLY EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED. ROY=CLASS AND LIL' COACH K=0

Class and intelligence. Is

Visitor — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:53:38 -0500

Class and intelligence.

Is it just me, or do Roy's sentences when complaining about the injuries issue barely make sense? And there are so many grammatical errors. Where did that guy go to school?

Oh, yeah, UNC. Perhaps that explains it.

Prince of a Coach

C Westfall — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:17:40 -0500

Roy didn't sound like a "prince of a coach" the other day, and the guy gives as much as he gets to the refs. Don't let that awshucks veneer fool you. Roy can be a slimeball when the occasion calls for it.

Roy v Coach K

Visitor — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:11:59 -0500

As those of us who are Jayhawks found out early and often, The Hobbit (Roy Williams) stands for only one thing, and that is The Hobbit. His irrational, self-serving and dumbfounding outbursts of hot air are only for the purpose of furthering the legend of The Hobbit. They are intended to make a little man look big and tough. I think it is great that Coach K released no statement in response to the what The Hobbit said. In essence K was implying by his silence "I will not dignify a stupid comment by a self-serving jerk".

UNC Has More Than One BIG BABY!!

Visitor — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:10:58 -0500

Could it be that "Old Roy" is just a bit sensitive? But, perhaps he knew he would get a free pass from the biased media, as usual. Coach K called no names of basketball programs or coachs. Do you think perhaps there could be other programs that publish daily reports of "infected toe" issues other than UNC? Could be. If so, why is the Head BIG BABY whining ... again? Oh, that's right, looking for another dose of that feel-good media loving. What a bunch of suck-ups!

Grow up BIG BABYS!!

Roy vs K

VisitorJim Walters — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:36:05 -0500

Roy is a prince of a coach and a true southern gentleman neither of which can be said about coach K.

Why the inaccurate quote by

Jared — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:16:46 -0500

Why the inaccurate quote by the New and Observer? Roy didn't say "coach their own darn team" he said "coach their own damn team". Does this paper have an agenda that would lead them to not accurately quote Roy in this article?

Coach K/Roy

Charles — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:40:00 -0500

Obviously, the tensions between these two coaches arose about eight years ago in a fateful nite in Winston-Salem. They've never really let it go. What I found a bit appalling about this article, though, was the complete omission of Roy's comments the week before about Duke having a successful basketball team, in part, because Coach K has a great marketing program. That's like telling a contemporary at work "You know, you do a really great job but you owe a lot to the way you look and present yourself. You're really not that substantive". In other words, Roy is saying that K is doing it with mirrors, with style over substance. Krzyzewski probably shouldn't have added those three little words "like other schools", but he has routinely said in his pre and postgame conferences over the years that he doesn't like to address injuries when a player can perform. In any event, the author should have included that in the story. It's a big chunk that's missing in this whole affair.

rst let me say I am a

Ben Henderson — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:37:27 -0500

rst let me say I am a Carolina fan.That being said it is my belief that coach K's style of coaching has led to the increased injuries that are being seen in the game of basketball. Other teams and coaches are using extreme force to try to take the ball away from players when the whistle should have already been blown to stop such actions. The injury that Larson suffered should never, ever be allowed in Basketball. Some may see the hands of approach of the officials as letting the teams play but somebody will eventually be hurt really bad and then the commissioner will step up and stop this type of basketball.. The roughhousing can be stopped simply by ejecting any player suspected of such actions, not for a single game but for the rest of the season. A few of these calls by the officials and all this rough playing where players are trying to hurt opposing players would stop very quickly. Let all coaching staff know that the officials would be putting this new policy in effect and the game would become a much safer sport overnight. At least in football the players are wearing safety equipment to protect them. These basketball players are very vulnerable. Rough fouling has been in coach K's arsenal for a long time.

Why mention Nolan's injury

Visitor — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:31:47 -0500

Why mention Nolan's injury at all if it's not something they talk about, it didn't cause him to miss any games, and no one asked anyway? Plain and simple, K was pissed because they'd lost and so he took a poke at someone he doesn't like anyway. Of course, without naming names, he can now act astonished that anyone would interpret it that way.

Roy vs. Coach K

mwilliam — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:54:50 -0500

What do you think of the Roy-Coach K situation?

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What do you think of the Roy-Coach K situation? Click here to read the story and hear the Roy Williams audio.