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Food for thought...

Java55 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:17:32 -0400

What happens after all the baby boomers in America retire from the active work force in mass within the next decade or so and all we are left with is a much smaller population of well educated people to keep our country competitive in the world market as well as help to support the needs (..don't forget rising health insurance premiums, etc...) of such a large population bulge of aging folks who are no longer working or fit and able to work?

Also a footnote to add here: In China after nearly 3 decades of the one child per family policy to control excess population growth it seems that China is now facing this very same problem but on a much larger scale and with very little in the way of immigration coming in to add to their work force as the aging folks become dependant upon whatever they have saved throughout their lives and upon that one younger working family member for support. (FYI: people over 40 in China are required to retire) -- it seems both America and China are headed in the same direction but in America there is a remote chance of an opportunity to do something about this although it is not generally popular as the posts under this topic have so far indicated.

Food for thought...

Not how it works

rhodent — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:45:24 -0400

I love the way some people think these discussions work: "Here, I'm making an assertion. Now it's up to you to go find out about it!"

Sorry. YOU made the assertion that there are grants and scholarships for illegal immigrants, so YOU get to do the research and provide evidence. Until then, your assertion deserves to be, and will be, ignored.

Federal Law

cricket22 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:22:42 -0400

Quote:
Federal law passed in 1996 prohibits illegal aliens from receiving in-state tuition rates at public institutions of higher education. Specifically, Section 505 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (Title 8, Chapter 14, Sec. 1623(a)) states: "an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident."

That means if you give in-state tuition to illegal aliens,then you have to give it to anyone else,which includes legal immigrants and students from other states!

Education for all

cricket22 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:18:45 -0400

Sally, it appears that they have enough money to send some back to Mexico!

Source: Inter-American Development Bank, March 2006 report, “Remittance 2005”. Mexico remains the largest recipient of remittances, at over US$20 billion, followed by Brazil and Columbia which for the first time reached over US$6 and US$4 billion respectively. Central America and the Dominican Republic combined to reach over US$11 billion; and the Andean countries totaled almost US$9 billion.

http://www.iadb.org/mif/v2/files/guemez_remitforum05.pdf

As much as 50% of remittances are unreported. As published in the Development Prospect Group Briefing #3, "This amount only reflects transfers through official channels. Econometric analysis suggests that unrecorded flows through informal channels may add 50 percent or more to recorded flows. Including these unrecorded flows, the true size of remittances, is larger than foreign direct investment flows and more than twice as large as official aid received by developing countries."

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTPROSPECTS/Resources/334934-1110315015165/MigrationDevelopmentBriefingNov2006.pdf

Oh,here's a couple of comments from Senator Kennedy!

(1)Hart-Celler Act hearings 1965 Quote: Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured his colleagues and the nation with the following:

"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."

Sen. Kennedy concluded by saying,

(2)"The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)

"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this."

-- Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

Illegal

Visitor — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:11:53 -0400

Illegals should be allowed to go only if the School reports where they live so that Government can deport the whole family for being here illegal. If they have a child that is born legally in the US then when that child is 21 only that child can come back to live here if he or she has learned English.

Absolutley not! Those spaces

Visitor — Fri, 16 May 2008 10:46:17 -0400

Absolutley not! Those spaces should be reserved for the CITIZENS of this nation. PERIOD... Way to go N.C.!

college and statue of Liberty

Sosad — Fri, 16 May 2008 10:18:40 -0400

First someone above wrote these words that are on the "statue of liberty" I would like to clarifiy a misinterpetation by them....Key words are "golden door" meaning entering our country legally....come through the door...if we are full, "SORRY"

There is a plaque on the Statue of Liberty which reads:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

College's. illegals should not be taking seats in our college from our children. GO HOME, and get your education, or apply to attend our colleges legally

No they should not be

FAYE — Thu, 15 May 2008 23:25:22 -0400

No they should not be allowed to attend college. They are illegal aliens and in this country illegally!

The AG has it right.

Visitor — Thu, 15 May 2008 19:45:14 -0400

The AG has it right. Federal law prohibits aiding and abetting illegal aliens.

You can fight, but not be educated.

Visitor — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:42:18 -0400

Thank you for saying what so many of us are thinking.

It is absolutely ridiculous

Visitor — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:28:47 -0400

It is absolutely ridiculous to grant any further means for illegal aliens to benefit from their illegal status. They need to return home, seek education in their nation, or do as many American citizens do every year and apply to universities and colleges outside of the United States.

Our Founding Father's Outlook on Immigration

Visitor — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:28:38 -0400

Yes, that's true, but even our founding fathers would have found a better way to solve the issue. You can't satisfy everyone, but at least we can be fair and compassionate. I'm not seeing that attitude in most of these blogs.

ILLEGAL ALIENS absolutely

Debbydee — Wed, 14 May 2008 23:16:46 -0400

ILLEGAL ALIENS absolutely should not be allowed to attend college, they should not even be in the country.....HELLO...they are ILLEGAL. They became criminals when they crossed the border illegally.

We shouldn't even have to

Visitor — Wed, 14 May 2008 22:47:07 -0400

We shouldn't even have to give an illegal alien an education. They should be deported right along with their parents.

International Tuition Rate. Don't you get it!

Lickity Split! — Wed, 14 May 2008 22:36:34 -0400

Sure it will Sally. Those 27 illegal aliens are going to strengthen the tax base, while the family can't earn enough money to send them to state funded college and they are whinning and crying about how expensive it is to go to college!

The illegal aliens attending college will benefit the college and tax base when they start paying international tuition rates. Just like the other international students that have permission to be her and have student visas.

You are not going to ever see another Amnesty because the manjority of Americans are against it. Give up your pipe dream. The illegals are not going to stay and if they try, they will be very uncomfortable because Americans are taking back America, from foreign nationals one law, one city, and one state at time.

Illegal immigrants and college in N.C.

ctmiller — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:45:01 -0500

The Attorney General's office released an advisory letter Wednesday that illegal immigrants cannot attend the state's colleges. Is this right? Should they be allowed to attend the schools?

The Attorney General's office released an advisory letter Wednesday that illegal immigrants cannot attend the state's colleges. Is this right? Should they be allowed to…